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Connecting Charlemagne to Anne Couvent, mother of Voyageurs
I’ve been studying my family history (genealogy) off and on for 50+ years, and have worked at it seriously—almost daily—since I first gained access to the internet 30 years ago.
Having always been fascinated with the history of the fur trade, I have been working on my La Prairie, Quebec—a village of voyageurs—for the past 15 years.
A few years back I discovered the THE LONGUEVAL RESEARCH PROJECT (2007)—Memoirs of the French-Canadian Genealogical Society, who published an article titled "Les origins de Philippe Amiot (Hameau), de son éspouse Anne Couvent et de leur neveu Toussaint Ledran." (“The origins of Philippe Amiot (Hameau), his wife Anne Couvent and their nephew Toussaint Ledran”)
With the above information I was able to connect my ancestry from Louis VIII, King of France, through Anne Couvent, to Lucy Pinsonneau (my 2nd great-grandmother).
A DEEPER DIVE WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
During the past couple of months I’ve taken a deeper dive into my La Prairie ancestors using AI, and have learned some amazing new things about them.
Yesterday I was thinking about about Anne Convent’s royal ancestry, which I was pretty sure would link to Charlemagne (King of the Franks, Holy Roman Emperor), so I posed the following QUESTION TO GROK XAI: Would it be possible to provide me with a lineage, showing all the people between, that connects the following royalty:
Charlemagne (King of the Franks, Holy Roman Emperor) c. 742–814
Rollo (Viking leader, 1st Duke of Normandy) c. 860–930
William the Conqueror (Duke of Normandy, King of England) c. 1028–1087
Louis VIII (King of France) 1187–1226
Henry III (King of England) 1207–1272
Anne Couvent (immigrant to New France) c. 1605–1675
Lucy Pinsonneau (2nd great-grandmother) 1836–1917
GROK XAI REPLY:
Connected Lineage from Charlemagne to Lucy Pinsonneau
The individuals you listed—Charlemagne, Rollo, William the Conqueror, Louis VIII, Henry III, Anne Couvent, and Lucy Passino—are interconnected through European royal and noble lineages, primarily converging on Anne Couvent before descending to Lucy Passino. Not all are in a single direct line (e.g., Rollo is a Viking leader without a confirmed descent from Charlemagne, but his wife Poppa of Bayeux has a debated but commonly cited Carolingian ancestry linking back to Charlemagne). This creates a merged family tree where paths branch and reconverge due to intermarriages.
I've compiled a descending structure starting from Charlemagne (c. 742–814), incorporating all listed figures based on established (though sometimes debated) genealogical sources. Paths are shown with branches for clarity:
- Main Path: Charlemagne → Poppa → Rollo (via marriage) → William the Conqueror → splits into English (to Henry III) and French (to Louis VIII) branches.
- Convergence: Both Henry III and Louis VIII lines merge at Philippe I d'Artois (late 1200s), then descend to Anne Couvent → Lucy Passino.
Generations are numbered from Charlemagne as Generation 1. Relationships, titles, and approximate birth/death years are included. This draws from medieval chronicles, the Longueval Project, and sites like famouskin.com, habitant.org, and robertsewell.ca. Note: Some early links (e.g., Poppa's ancestry) are speculative and based on later Norman chroniclers like Dudo of Saint-Quentin.
Table 1: From Charlemagne to William the Conqueror (via Poppa and Rollo)
This path links Charlemagne to Rollo's descendants through Poppa's debated Senlis/Vermandois ancestry.
Generation | Name and Titles | Relationship to Previous | Birth/Death Years |
1 | Charlemagne (King of the Franks, Holy Roman Emperor) | Starting point | c. 742–814 |
2 | Pepin of Italy (King of Italy) | Son | 773–810 |
3 | Bernard of Italy (King of Italy) | Son | 797–818 |
4 | Pepin II (Seigneur of Peronne, Count near Senlis) | Son | c. 817–after 846 |
5 | Herbert I (Count of Vermandois) | Son | c. 848–907 |
6 | Unnamed Daughter of Herbert I | Daughter | fl. 870s |
7 | Poppa of Bayeux (Duchess of Normandy) | Daughter (of the unnamed daughter and her husband Gui, Count of Senlis) | c. 872–? |
8 | Rollo (Viking leader, 1st Duke of Normandy) | Husband of Poppa (married c. 890; Rollo not descended from Charlemagne) | c. 860–930 |
9 | William I Longsword (Duke of Normandy) | Son | c. 893–942 |
10 | Richard I "the Fearless" (Duke of Normandy) | Son | c. 932–996 |
11 | Richard II "the Good" (Duke of Normandy) | Son | c. 963–1026 |
12 | Robert I "the Magnificent" (Duke of Normandy) | Son | c. 1000–1035 |
13 | William the Conqueror (Duke of Normandy, King of England) | Son | c. 1028–1087 |
Table 2: Branch from William the Conqueror to Henry III (English Plantagenet Line)
This branch follows William's descendants through England.
Generation from William (13 overall) | Name and Titles | Relationship to Previous | Birth/Death Years |
1 (13) | William the Conqueror (Duke of Normandy, King of England) | Branch starting point | c. 1028–1087 |
2 (14) | Henry I (King of England) | Son | c. 1068–1135 |
3 (15) | Matilda (Empress Matilda, Lady of the English) | Daughter | c. 1102–1167 |
4 (16) | Henry II (King of England) | Son | 1133–1189 |
5 (17) | John (King of England, "Lackland") | Son | 1166–1216 |
6 (18) | Henry III (King of England) | Son | 1207–1272 |
Table 3: Branch from William the Conqueror to Louis VIII (French Capetian Line)
This branch follows William's daughter Adela into French nobility, leading to the Capetians.
Generation from William (13 overall) | Name and Titles | Relationship to Previous | Birth/Death Years |
1 (13) | William the Conqueror (Duke of Normandy, King of England) | Branch starting point | c. 1028–1087 |
2 (14) | Adela of Normandy (Countess of Blois) | Daughter | c. 1067–1137 |
3 (15) | Theobald II "the Great" (Count of Champagne) | Son | c. 1090–1152 |
4 (16) | Adela of Champagne (Queen of France) | Daughter | c. 1140–1206 |
5 (17) | Philip II Augustus (King of France) | Son | 1165–1223 |
6 (18) | Louis VIII "the Lion" (King of France) | Son | 1187–1226 |
Table 4: Merged Descent from Henry III and Louis VIII to Anne Couvent
The English (Henry III) and French (Louis VIII) branches merge at Philippe I d'Artois (via Blanche de Bretagne from Henry III marrying into the Artois line from Louis VIII). Continue from there to Anne.
Generation from Louis VIII/Henry III (18 overall) | Name and Titles | Relationship to Previous | Birth/Death Years |
1 (18) | Louis VIII "the Lion" (King of France) / Henry III (King of England) | Merge starting points (parallel ancestors) | 1187–1226 / 1207–1272 |
2 (19) | Robert I (Comte d'Artois) [from Louis VIII] / Beatrice of England [from Henry III] | Son of Louis VIII / Daughter of Henry III | 1216–1250 / fl. 1240s |
3 (20) | Robert II (Count d'Artois) [from Louis VIII line] / Jean II (Duke of Bretagne, Earl of Richmond) [from Henry III via Beatrice] | Son of Robert I / Husband of Beatrice | 1249–1302 / 1239–1305 |
4 (21) | Philippe I (Count of Artois) [merge point] / Blanche de Bretagne [from Henry III line] | Son of Robert II / Daughter of Jean II and Beatrice; wife of Philippe I | fl. late 1200s / fl. late 1200s |
5 (22) | Marie d'Artois | Daughter | 1291–1365 |
6 (23) | Marie de Namur (van Dampierre) | Daughter | 1322–1355 |
7 (24) | Yolande de Bar | Daughter | 1342–1410 |
8 (25) | Jeanne de Grancey | Daughter | d. 1422 |
9 (26) | Marie de Châteauvillain | Daughter | 1365–1423 |
10 (27) | Robert de Sarrebruche (Lord of Commercy I) | Son | 1400–1460 |
11 (28) | Jeanne de Sarrebruche | Daughter | 1436–1492 |
12 (29) | Christophe de Barbançon (Seigneur of Canny-sur-Matz) / François de Barbançon (Seigneur de la Frette) [line continues via François] | Son (but line via François, son of Jeanne) | 1470–1510 |
13 (30) | Marguerite de Barbançon (Dame of Montgobert) | Daughter | c. 1480–? |
14 (31) | Robert de Joyeuse (Count of Grandpré) / François de Joyeuse (Seigneur de Champigneulles) [line via François] | Husband / Son | 1515–1597 |
15 (32) | Jean de Joyeuse (Seigneur de Champigneulle) | Son | 1540–1607 |
16 (33) | Louise de Joyeuse (Dame of Sivry) | Daughter | 1565–1616 |
17 (34) | Antoinette de Longueval (Dame of Sivry) | Daughter | 1580–1640 |
18 (35) | Anne Couvent (Immigrant to New France) | Daughter | c. 1605–1675 |
Table 5: From Anne Couvent to Lucy Passino
Continuing the merged line to your ancestor.
Generation from Anne (35 overall) | Name and Titles | Relationship to Previous | Birth/Death Years |
1 (35) | Anne Couvent (Immigrant to New France) | Continuing point | c. 1605–1675 |
2 (36) | Mathieu Amiot (Amyot) Sieur de Villeneuve | Son | 1628–1688 |
3 (37) | Catherine-Ursule Amiot | Daughter | 1664–1715 |
4 (38) | Etienne Duquet dit Desrochers | Son | 1695–1762 |
5 (39) | Marie Madeleine Duquet | Daughter | 1734–1791 |
6 (40) | Gabriel Pinsonneau | Son | 1770–1807 |
7 (41) | Gabriel (Gilbert) Passino (Passinault) (Pinsonneau) | Son | 1803–1877 |
8 (42) | Lucy Passino (Pinsonneau) | Daughter | 1836–1917 |
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